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of that fiscal cliff to a gentle, let's say, bunny slope. we have a fragile economy, but it's accelerating and it's predicted as this year to grow. it grew at 2% to goh at 3% or more this coming year so you want this skier, so to speak to go down the slope and pick up speed so when you do come to the grand bargain that has $3 trillion of debt reduction. all they've got to do is shoulder 1 billion, changing the scale and put the rest of that in the following nine years and that's something that they'll come up with. >> where do they find it? there are various places, and just that, there's $118 billion if you didn't do the payroll tax extension holiday and if you didn't do that at $250,000, that's almost the same equivalent amount or if you wanted to step back and say hey, let's make sure that these defensive, domestic sequestration cuts of $100 billion and half of that and you can take smalles poohes of that and come up to $100 million and know that it will grow close to 3%. that's the key, and that's why they're behind closed doors today. coming up with that, you don't have to have it done by ja
market despite all the worries about the fiscal cliff and maybe slower growth in the u.s. economy, the stock market has had a great year. too bad you missed out. smart money has been in the market. the rest of us have been worried about the fiscal cliff. >> number 8, facebook's ipo, hundreds of millions of people like facebook, but investors did not. on its first day as a public company. trading glitches at the nasdaq and questions about the company's ability to make money on mobile users pummelled the stock which has yet to climb its way back to its ipo price. >> number 7, mother meyer. the new ceo of yahoo who announced she was going to take a two-week maternity leave. it looks like a mother's touch is just exactly what yahoo needed. >> number 6, mother nature. a drought in the midwest that scorched the corn and soy crop sending prices sky high. who can forget superstorm sandy. damages as high as $50 billion raising lots of questions about u.s. infrastructure and whether we should be spending money to fix it. >> number 5, china. is china slowing or leading the world? we do know
the response is out of washington with the fiscal cliff it is going to slow the economy next year. raising of taxes, cutting down of government spending will decrease economic growth, gdp growth which calculations -- shibani: we're predicting a slowdown but predicting a rise in currency in u.s. dollar. how does that -- >> good question. for safety. the bond market everyone is bearish on the bond market because interest rates should go up but in all reality the commercials have positioned themselves for short-term move down which we had. going back to neutral again and the open interest which is how many contracts are exposed to this trend or hedge are at the lowest level in years. usually you will get higher open interest of the market is going to move in the direction lower and the bond market is signaling that things are not going to be worked out and the economy will slow down the u.s. currency strengthens when there is nervousness around world which relates to the stock market going down. byy the fiscal cliff, the debt ceiling -- shibani: the fiscal cliff -- >> cash is king. next you m
into the swipe of things. plus, could a tumble off the fiscal cliff hurt the markets? one trader says don't fall for the hype. first business starts now. you're watching first business: financial news, analysis, and today's investment ideas. good morning. it's friday, december 28th. i'm angela miles. in today's first look: watch your neck. the market is a head-turner. yesterday the dow dropped more than 100 points on word out of washington a resolution to the fiscal cliff was unlikely. but president obama returned early from vacation and is said to have a new proposal to offer congress, sparking a rally that left the dow down just 19 points. reports are swirling apple is moving production of its mac mini computers to foxconn plants in the u.s. apple may also be working on a smart watch. and, the new york stock exchange landed the most ipo for 2012. larry levin of trading advantage joins us now. larry, it feels like we are already hanging off that cliff. > > it definitely feels that way. everybody is obviously watching for some kind of news out of washington. that is what has moved the market eve
the fact that if we go over this fiscal cliff, the press to deal economy, just barely recovering, is very strong. the risk to people is as though they are playing tug of war with the american economy and a country that's going to get hurt. beyond that, as soon as we get through to the fiscal cliff with sensible policies, but also replacing it with sensible ways to deal with the fiscal charges of the debt, it looks as though we're not going to be able to do anything to tackle those challenges right now and that is a partisan environment in washington getting worse and worse leaving us with questions about whether these guys are actually able to govern. host: that is what is written about on the front page of "the new york times" this morning. guest: i feel like we're watching a game of a finger pointing. there is little discussion of actual public policy, but both sides are shouting louder and louder that it is the other sides fault, pointing fingers. what if any other business environment work this way? both sides tried to cast blame instead of working together? at this point, the level o
now and there is still no deal preventing the economy from going over that now infamous fiscal cliff. members of congress are still pointing fingers over who is to blame for the lack of progress. to prevent the tax hikes and spending cuts from aching effect january 1st. meanwhile, connecticut's independent senator, joe lieberman, expects congress to work right up until the new year's eve deadline. he's not sure that will be enough. >> it's the first time that i feel like it's more likely that we'll go over the cliff than not. if we allow that to happen, it will be the most colossal consequential act of congressional irresponsibility in a long time. >> the president and congress are on short holiday breaks. they're due back later in the week. one possibility in all of this mess is a partial deal on taxes while putting off agreement on spending until some time down the road. >>> former president george h.w. bush may be spending christmas in the hospital. he's been there since thanksgiving. he's battling bronchitis and a lingering cough. doctors say he's in stable condition but needs to
, jeff. >> as we avoid the fiscal cliff and the economy picks up, and big ifs, which industries stand to add the most job? rick newman is here for u.s. news and world report. rick, nice to meet you. >> hi, how are you doing? >> you gave us a list, and interesting to pull out the theme. social networking sites, video game publishing, online payment, definitely a theme here where the growth is at. >> heard this the last couple years, obviously, it's digital, digital, digital, and real estate on the list as well. social networking. it's not a 235d, but -- a fad, but here to stay, and mobile devices, social networks follows. news sites too, not just facebook and twitter, but pinterest. there's smaller ones, niche sites, but the trends is here to stay. >> sustainable building materials, huh? >> i hate to tell you, but it's growing, and it is growing because state and local governments have new standards, not because of washington, anything happening in washington. it's not a stimulus plan, don't worry, but it's new standards. state and local governments needs buildings to be energy first t
the u.s. economy from going off the fiscal cliff. after a late afternoon meeting with the top four congressional leaders at the white house, president obama offered this assessment. >>> i'm modestly optimistic -- nobody is going to get 100% of what they want. but let's make sure that middle class families and the american economy and in fact the world economy aren't adversely impacted because people can't do their jobs. >> sources say house speaker are john boehner deferred to senate colleagues and told them house leaders would consider, accept or amend their plan. what s not expected to be included in any deal is increasing the debt limit, something democrats have wanted and republicans have resisted. >> we he haded a long meeting in the white house and it was constructive. we hope that it will bear fruit. but that is what we hoped a lot. i think that the next 24 hours will be very instructive as to what we are able to accomplish. >> if it doesn't work president obama wants lawmakers to vote on what would essentially be plan c. here is what it would include. focusing on three key
. this isn't always a good sign about the economy. in the face of the fiscal cliff there is concern about what will happen with taxes and american consumers income in the new year. they're backing off of energy consumption. that is leading to lower prices. for the trading, overall volume is half of its 100 a average. we're seeing light participation in those markets and as of today crude down 8%. we are watching natural-gas prices as whether roles throughout the country. folks are using more natural gas pushing prices up, contrary to crude-oil prices going down, the energy report is daily, but it showed 72 cubic feet draw down in line with expectations but still a very big drawdown pushing prices higher. natural gas prices up 12% so far this year so folks are paying more to heat their homes than the same time last year. adam: thank yoo from the floor of the cme. retail sales of of the worst holiday season in four years. will there be discounts to help retailers close 2012 on a better note? joining us to talk about this is christian bets. may i call you kristy? >> yes you may. adam: a plea
to reach an agreement or the u.s. economy will go off the so- called "fiscal cliff." that's when automatic spending increases and cuts would take effect. reaching a deal won't be easy because both sides are involved in a high stakes political blame game. >> we are here in washington working while the members of the house of representatives are out watching movies and watching the kids play soccer and basketball and doing all kinds of things. they should be here. >> i told the president we would be happy to look at wah he proposes but the truth is we are coming up against a hard deadline and as i said this is a conversation we should have had months ago. >> reporter: democrats want to extend the bush-era tax cuts to everyone except those americans making $250,000 or more a year. many republicans are against any tax increases. most americans just want something to be done. >> people are just tired of partisanship and they want everyone to come together. >> reporter: if lawmakers don't reach a deal by january 1, many economists are concerned it could eventually lead to another recession. i'm
's still no deal preventing the economy from going over the fiscal cliff. members of congress are pointing fingers over who is to blame for the lack of progress to prevent tax hikes and spending cuts. connecticut's independent senator joe lieberman expects congress to work right up to the new year's eve deadline. but he's not even sure that's going to be enough. >> it's the first time i feel it's more likely we will go over the cliff than not, and if we allow that to happen, it will be the most colossal consequential act of congressional irresponsibility in a long time. >> the president and congress are on short holiday breaks right now. due back later in the week. one possibility is a partial deal on taxes while putting off an agreement on spending, therefore kind of kicking some of the can down the road, once again. >> and that seems to be what congress is good at. no problem ever gets solved. there's no grand bargain. we heard that term tossed around. seems like we just do a little bit and then say oh, we'll get to it by summer and get to it by the fall. and nothing substantive really g
about on the rise and a sales surge. we have retail and economy news. everyone talking about fiscal cliff, taxes going up. a little detail not many people talking about, but will get their attention if you say your milk prices could double, triple? >> got milk, t.j.? talking about the dairy cliff. and the conchalgressional agricultural committee will come together. the price of milk will increase. right now, a gallon of milk about $3.50. set to go up to -- get this. $8 by january. if this new man isn't implemented. part of the talks that's going on with the president. they hope this will move forward. nobody wants the price of milk to be drink up. >> farm bill, it maybe goes over their heads. but i tell somebody that $8 for a gallon, they pay attention. >> this is a farm bill they really want to concentrate on. who wants to pay $8 a gallon for milk. >> this isn't the only thing that could shoot up. >> right. we're also talking about grocery prices too. about 12 different items will go up in 2013. some of the main ones, fwrogroc prices up 4%. the reason why, remember the drought that
bargain. so i don't really buy the aurm that if you smooth out the fiscal cliff, then you go on and do other things. >> with the speed bump, if you're going too slow, which the economy is, if it's a big one, you go up and you might want make it over. and then if you're going too fast, you go up in the air, take out your transmission. >> what happens if you have a low car? >> it's bad. you hurt your undercarriage. but spain and the undercarriage is not something any of us need. but i think that howard dean, we didn't have time to go back and get howard and stuff. but howard said the best deal the democrats are going to get is to go over the fiscal cliff. taxes go up, then you go the republicans in position where they're getting the lower taxes. then patti murray. >> i just hope that people are paying attention that what we are seeing is basically the best world for politicians, they put off the and then everybody is going to pretend, oh, it's something happened. and nobody in the meantime is representing the interest of the american people. you know, we've got both parties in a position
that the fiscal cliff is disadvantageous to the economy in terms of jobs and taxes but if we know we are going over the cliff that provides policy certainty that allows corporations to act within the certainty of the new tax regime that comes out of it and it will help the deficit. i am speaking anathema but that is certainty. shibani: 70 -- dennis: something wins and the economy could make stocks right at some point. thank you very much, jim laventhol. here's one retail segment that did great. gun, rifle and ammunition sales are skyrocketing following the backlash against guns at the connecticut elementary school. the world's largest supplier of firearms says it sold 3.5 years worth of ammunition clips for automatic weapons in just three days and a gun shop owner north carolina says gun sales for christmas or four times better than last year. many customers blame talk of stricter gun control for driving the rush. unintended consequences. let's look at gun stocks. the images that so smith and wesson, they are down. the middle of their sales are probably up. shibani: one of the most profitable
conversations we'll have a bipartisan solution, because nobody wants to go over this fiscal cliff. it will damage our economy. it will hurt every taxpayer, the largest tax increase in history. it will affect everybody, and anyone who is watching who thinks, oh this isn't going to impact me, you will fin out d o will, and we know the problem is a lot of spending. not that we're not taxing people more, we're just spending too much. we hope that the president understands that as for as republicans are concerned, we're willing to negotiate and have a civil conversation, but also he's got to bring in some spending cuts and tax reform, because americans want tax reform and we don't want to hurt the economy, and, look there, are not enough millionaires in the united states to tax them all to be able to spend our way out of this problem. so let's -- let's give up a little bit -- each side can concede a little. and i think we can fin middle ground. i'm optimistic. >> we had your colleague nan hayworth last hour. she was expecting work to be done in the senate. the house did its best, boehn
to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> if in fact we do go over the fiscal cliff it means the economy is going to go down pretty sharply. [ buzzing ] bye dad. drive safe. k. love you. [ chirping, buzzing continues ] [ horn honks ] [ buzzing continues ] [ male announcer ] the sprint drive first app. blocks and replies to texts while you drive. we can live without the &. visit sprint.com/drive. . gregg: you expect accrued of lines when you're shopping. how about sharks? look at those cameras rolling. a giant aquarium bursts, e phroedz insid explodes inside a mall in sang high china it sends glass, water, everywhere, including sharks. fortunately the sharks weren't terribly hungry at the moment and they didn't get very far. patti ann: george h.w. bush is in intensive care at a houston hospital battling a subject born fever. the former president has been sick for a few weeks now. on november 7th he was admitted to methodist hospital in houston what cough. he was later released only to be readmitted on november 23rd. by december 13th a hospital spokesman said the former president was improving and should
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the fiscal cliff. of course, if is that happens, the economy could eventually slip back into recession. one interesting point, thomas, though, last time that members of congress worked between christmas and new year's was 1996. that was during the government shutdown. this is really a rare occurrence for members of congress to have to come back and work out legislation that they went able to get done before the christmas holiday. >> the president is supposed to stay there for how long? >> well, of course, the white house not really giving us specifics about the president's travel plans at this point in time. the reality is i think the president is himself trying to figure out what he is going to do, but we do expect that he will cut his vacation short. you've heard the president himself during his press conference on friday say i will be seeing you all next week. i think that it is very likely that we will see president obama back in d.c. later on this week and also taking part in those negotiations. >> last but not least, do you have on flip-flops? >> no, not yet. >> i'm looking at wi kiki
as members of congress return to washington to address the fiscal cliff. talks will take place behind closed doors. no public negotiations set. you have the debt and the fiscal cliff. it's not looking too good right now when it comes to the u.s. economy. >> geithner told congressional leaders that his department is using some accounting measures basically a fancy way of saying they're going to free up cash to hold off temporarily this fiscal cliff. but it's still not looking good. >> i don't know about you at home, but kicking the can down the road has been happening over and over again. somebody has to make some decisions here. >> it's like in this business, they give you a deadline and you have to hit the deadline. there's no coming in and saying take another ten minutes. it don't work that way in real life. there are americans out there saying get off your couches. get back to washington and get the deal done. >> sometimes it's not pretty when you have to rush, but get it done. >>> still on the economy now, new signs of a turn around in the real estate market. for the first time since 200
. >> eric: thousands of jobs and billions of dollars are at stake but this is no fiscal cliff. this is the looming port strike threatening to shut ports from boston, miami and beyond. florida governor rick scott telling the media a strike will be devastating to his state's economy. governor's right but it's an entire nation about to get slammed. brent is the president of miller and long construction. we import -- we pointed out somewhere around 65% of international trade hits the ports. we import cars, we import produce, we import oil and gas. explain how this will affect the prices for people watching right now of everything. >> well, it will be very significant in a lot of ways. we're talking about eleven ports, basically from boston pretty much all the way around to houston. the reason governor scott is concerned is there are four ports in florida that will be affected. this is containerized shipping. electronic goods, food stuff and things like that. it could be massive impact, especially in this -- we had retailers getting trouble getting back on track. it will affect eve
the fiscal cliff. the hope is both sides can agree to a compromise to prevent the economy from sliding back into recession. judging from the rhetoric on capitol hill, there's a long way to go. here's the day on the hill. >> if we go over the cliff we'll be left with the knowledge that could have been prevented with a single vote in the republican-controlled house of representatives. the american people i don't think understand the house of representatives is operating without the house of representatives. it's being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker not allowing the vast majority of the house representatives to get what they want. >> we're coming up against a hard deadline here, and as i said, this is a conversation we should have had months ago. republicans aren't about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> it is somewhat like taking your child hostage and saying to somebody else, i'm going to shoot my child if you don't do what i want done. you don't want to shoot your child. there's no republ
: maria mow lean a thanks. gregg: the fiscal cliff is not the only threat facing the u.s. economy right now. shipments of all kinds could actually be stuck on cargo ships if a longshoreman strike goes ahead as planned. the stakes for the recovery coming up. patti ann: high noon in those fiscal cliff negotiations. >> nothing have move forward in regards to our budget crisis unless speaker boehner and mitch mcconnell will go forward with our plan. speaker boehner is willing to negotiate, we have not heard a word from mitch mcconnell, and nothing is hang. patti ann: chris vanhollen joins us next. pwhrafp [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it really 100 calories? let me put you on webcan... ...lean roasted chicken... and a creamy broth mmm i can still see you. [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. . patti ann: fox news alert, potentially good news for the nation's housing market. pending home sales, which measure homes that are in contract and about to be sold rose 1.7% in novemb
about the attack in libya. >> there's going to be a massive fiscal cliff. >> in capitol hill the gridlock that defined the year turned into a stalemate over tax hikes and spending cuts that threatened to flung the economy back into recession. president omaba and john boehner failed to reach a deal before christmas. lawmakers left for the holiday with the country on the edge of the fiscal cliff. danielle nottingham, cbs news washington. >> it was quite a year. we've going to -- we're going to have more reviews in the last hour. at 8:45 we will take a look at the international news stories of 2012. that is going to be on the cb channel 44, cable 12. >>> for the moment let's look ahead. mcathy labs expects hacking to mobile devices to expand. they might that stuff. the company is especially concerned about so-called ransom ware. it's a type of virus that locks up a phone or tablet and threatens to keep it that way until a ransom is paid. other concerns for mobile customers include trojan horse programs to buy apps without user permission and the hacking of digital wallets. a dec
if a budget deal is reached in washington. if if the u.s. economy falls off the fiscal cliff, it will have an impact around the world. haus sirken is a partner and fellow of the overseas markets and joins us from chicago. thanks for being with us on this weekend. the idea -- >> great being with you, martin. >> thank you. the idea of the world being affected by the fiscal cliff problem here in america wasn't really lost on the president after his meeting with congressional immediate leaders yesterday. let's listen. >> i'm modestly optimistic that an agreement can be achieved. nobody is going to get 100% what have they want. but let's make sure that middle class families and the american economy and, in fact, the world economy, aren't adversely impacted because people can't do their jobs. >> so that begs the question, hall. how are other countries preparing for this really precarious situation and one in which they really have no control. >> well, martin, there's not much they can do to prepare. what will happen, if the fiscal cliff turns out to take place, is that we'll start to see the eco
concerns about the fiscal cliff. the president and congress return to d.c. retailers are doing a much better job of controlling inventory. muchstores don't have so merchandise left over that they need to clear out. netflix will introduce social features next year. a bill that would move restrictions on companies sharing customers rental histories. netflix customers can share which movies they watch an facebook. i'm a ellen braitman from bloomberg news. >> thank you so much. >> 37 degrees at the airport. keith mills will have sports coming up. >> don't forget to e-mail us your response to our water cooler question of the day. will you be more likely to visit a maryland casino now that some are open 24/7? you can share your response on wbaltv.com, on our facebook page, or send us an e-mail to watercooler@wbaltv.com. >> here is a look at last night's winning maryland lottery numbers. >> now insta-weather plus and traffic pulse 11 together. >> time to take a look at your morning commute. we are dealing with what roads -- wet roads. wind warnings are in effect at the bay bridge. 55 miles p
that happens is hit the sequestration, the things that the fiscal cliff will bring of the that's why. i'll take the medicine, the pain now for a healthier economy going forward. >> kelly: there are a lot of economists who agree because they're saying if we go through this, it will be pain for everybody, 2,000, $4,000 added to our tax for the next year or so. and potentially, after that we will rebound and all those automatic spending cuts will go into effect. >> juliet: we've been following this drama involving hobby lobby. the company plans to defy a federal mandate that came out. it required it to offer the morning after pill. and hobby lobby, the owners of the company say, but they don't want to do that. it defies what they believe. they're going to be defying this order. they're going to risk fines of up to $1.3 million per day because they said on principle, we can not do this. >> kelly: here is the reason why. they're a faith-based organization. even though they're in business. this is a faith-based business and this would go against their belief that they should not be involved in this k
until we all go over the fiscal cliff which would mean everyone's taxes will go up and sharp spending cuts will go effect that could drive our economy back into recession. to abc news white house correspondent jonathan karl filling in today for george stephanopoulos as host of abc's "this week." >> hey, jon, good morning. i know today and tomorrow obviously hugely important. can you sort of walk us through the potential order of operations? what could we see play out today and tomorrow? >> well, it is right down to the wire, dan. what's happening right now is harry reid and mitch mcconnell, the top democrat and republican in the senate are still negotiating their staffs at this hour. they are supposed to be working until about 3:00 this afternoon when the plan would be presented to both caucuses. as we understand what they are talking about is the bare minimum. basically the senate negotiating to extend those tax cuts for everybody making under $250,000 a year and do extend unemployment benefits also they're talking about trying to do something to stop the automatic spending cuts that
and there's still no sign leaders are closer to agreeing on a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. here's brian mooar. >> as senate leaders were behind closed doors, president obama and republicans issued dueling messages on the web. >> we can't afford a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. the economy is growing. >> if the nation goes over the fiscal cliff next tuesday, each side blames the other. >> we can avoid going over the fiscal cliff if the president and democrat controlled senate step forward this week and work with republicans to solve this problem and solve it now. >> all over the country now, uncertainty is in the area. >> it's not a matter of am i going to pay my light bill or not but will it deplete my savings. >> even if the impact isn't real, the perceived impact could cause us to drop off in sales. >> getting a deal is up to the senate's top democrat and top republican. >> we are engaged in discussions, the majority leader myself and the white house, in hopes we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation. >> whatever we come up with will be imperf
of a fiscal cliff deal, but many believe that will end up hurting the economy, giving a disincentive to invest money? was that just focused on the real wealthy? >> i hear that argument a lot. number one is, i'm really tired of our tax policy decisions. you know, everything, being made by what the market's going to do in the next quarter. this is about aberration of the tax code and grossly unfair. say they raise top tax rate to 39.6% for those making more than $500,000. that means a lot of small businesses will are paying that nearly 40% marginal tax rate where you have billionaire private equity funds paying 15, 20, even 24, depending where they put it. it's not an issue of penalizing investment income. it's an issue of penalizing labor, and those who make their income through wages. both are legitimate and both should be taxed at the same rate. so i do -- again, fundamental tax reform could solve this problem, but at least raising the capital gains rate would help address this anomaly and susan collins and claire mccaskill have a proposal to try to give small business owners, legitimate smal
for their businesses, should they buy a new computer, hire new people, the fiscal cliff is damaging the economy today. >> juliet: what are they doing? they don't know what to do. you have to act the at a certain point. are they laying people or, are they not moving? >> it's minimalist, do the least amount you can do at this point in time until you know what your tax liability is going to be. until you know what the economic outlook's going be to be. are we going to have another recession. >> juliet: how is that affecting them by doing the least, the least type of movement, i guess you could say? >> many of my members are not giving out bonuses, they're freezing pay, not hiring. that's what's happening on the main street america. and the fiscal cliff impacted already and main street small businesses are feeling that impact. if we go over the cliff, of course, it will be exacerbated and even worse, starting on january 1, the payroll taxes start going up and the rest of us. i think most small businesses people are convinced nobody in washington has a clue how to run a business, how to balance the books,
forward and pass whenever bill is necessary so we can avoid this fiscal cliff. if we do not do that, it will result in the economy, a tepid recovery we are having to go into recession. we do not want that. host: thank you for the call, justin. a few comments on our facebook page -- we are taking your calls and tweets and facebook messages all morning on this segment and the next segment about the fiscal cliff. we will go to franklin from georgia on the democratic line. good morning. caller: good morning. i like to tell congress, congress is a mano kolinsky for the lobbyists. we have to deal with that. -- monica lewinsky for the lobbyists. we have to do that. they are putting money in their pockets so they can take vacations and revitalize their homes. host: do you think this fiscal cliff nonsense is to make more members of congress money. caller: yes. anytime you can say that corporations are people, you have already gone against -- i am talking about what the forefathers said. when they said that liberty and pursuit of happiness -- the two- party does not -- the tea party does not
also referenced the impending fiscal cliff, which threatens to derail the economy if a compromise can't be reached by next week on those big unanswered issues. with both sides locked in the standoff, house republicans are calling on senate democrats to act first. democrats aren't budging much on their demands. they want to extend tax cuts and incomes below $250,000, prolong unemployment benefits, and delay those sweeping spending cuts. sam stein. >> yes. >> what happens in -- and it appears it will happen -- we go off the fiscal cliff for a few days? >> not much, is my understanding. kwb, over time, it will have much more of an impact, and it's unknown exactly what the market's psyche will do with respect to the government's inability to come together. with respect to the tax hikes, it won't be as bad as the rhetoric is suggesting early on. whether it's enough to actually get people to get back to the negotiating table -- because i agree with you, i think we're going to go over that deadline, that's the big question. what kind of political ramifications it will have. it's not as if yo
the government could very well go over that fiscal cliff. now, just five days until everyone's taxes go up. how much for the average american family? here's our chief white house correspondent jon karl tonight. >> reporter: president obama cut short his hawaiian vacation, where storm clouds, real storm clouds, are gathering over the capitol. instead of deal making, it's name calling. the top democrat in the senate, accusing the republican speaker of the house of running a dictatorship. they say they haven't given up, but it sure sounds that way. >> i don't know, time-wise, how it can happen now. >> here we are, once again, at the end of the year, staring at a crisis we should have dealt with literally months ago. >> reporter: vice president biden made a rare appearance in the senate, not to negotiate -- >> i do. >> congratulations, senator. >> reporter: but to swear in a new democratic senator from hawaii. a vote the white house will need if the senate ever gets around to voting on a plan to avert the fiscal cliff. in the house, even less going on. the only hopeful words, from the house chaplai
a fainting spell brought on by a stomach bug. >>> and the fiscal cliff in washington isn't the only major threat to the u.s. economy. this morning, time is running out to avoid a strike by 14,000 dockworkers from boston to houston for demanding better pay. 14 ports which handle half of the nation's shipping traffic are threatened. workers could walk off the job this sunday, costing the economy an estimated $1 billion per day. >>> and for the second time this month, someone has been pushed to their death on a new york subway. a woman seen running away on the left side of this surveillance video, right here, shoved a man on to the tracks last night. he was then crushed by an oncoming train. witnesses say the woman was talking to herself, pacing on the platform before pushing the man from behind. and did not appear to even know the victim. >>> and finally, you don't have to be a football fan to be inspired by this story. for the first time since being diagnosed with leukemia in september, indianapolis colts head coach chuck pagano will return to the field this weekend, a symbol of strength a
the fiscal cliff with a big debt deal. and they're once again starting to talk about the debt ceiling as something that it's not at all clear will be raised in a responsible way. and by responsible, what would happen is they raise the debt ceiling in return for putting in place budgetary changes. but if there's a real threat of not raising the debt ceiling, there's just too much uncertainty right now which could rattle markets and harm the economy. so i'm worried about holding the country hostage on that. i would much prefer to put in place a comprehensive debt deal in advance of that and raise the debt ceiling at the same time. >> all right. well, i know you keep an eye on this better than just about anybody out there. myra mcguinness, thank you for your time. i know we'll be talking to you down the road. >> thank you. >>> let me turn now about 18 minutes from now i'm going to get up here. craig melvin is going to be in the chair. craig, good morning to you, kind sir. how you doing? >> good to see you over there, my friend. >> good to see you, my man. >> welcome welcome. coming up ne
. host: you have been quoted as saying -- with the fiscal cliff we will see 1 million job losses. guest: that is the assessment we have been getting from the running of our models. the economy should be expanding to% or 3% next year without the fiscal cliff, that would correlate with about 2 million net new jobs next year. so it's a continuation of a steady expansion. i wish it was a little faster expansion, but nonetheless it is an expansion. if we had a fiscal cliff, and we are reversing all the gains we have seen. host: what about mortgage deduction on a second home or vacation home or a certain limit to the size of a mortgage? would you be supportive of that? guest: we have to recognize that negotiating away from what has been a striking departure from just protecting the mortgage interest deduction, property ownership. any breach to that invites further breaches. our members, even though they recognize the deck is a need to be resolved, any breach will lead to further coming back, loring the income limit. -- lowering the income limit. we have to recognize many of the second homes a
and that of the media is on the fiscal cliff, and i understand that. economy of the nation and the world may be at stake here. i think that sooner or later, there will be some kind of an agreement. will we are talking about here is a fundamental change in the ruling, the possibility of a fundamental change in the way the senate does business peeping basically changing the rules of the senate from either 60 votes, sometimes 67, to 51 votes, which would make as no different than the house of representatives, and of course would reduce us in many respects not to irrelevance in the minority party. here is the problem. on one side, the majority leader and the democrats are frustrated by their inability to move forward with legislation. every time there is an opposition to a motion to proceed, which takes days and then they proceed, and that has made the united states congress -- one of the reasons why the united states congress is judged the least productive congress since the year 1947. so, understandably the majority is frustrated with their inability to move legislation. on the other hand, the republicans
. doesn't mean they're going to get anything done as far as the fiscal cliff is concerned and because the deadline is so tight, about the most we could hope for may be is some kind of temporary deal. if they don't come up with a pick, the economy may be in for a big jolt. >> we're going to see economic activity slow down. i think we're going to see, with the certainty of tax rates raising on all of us that people contract their economic activity. >> and look, here is why. when you take a look at the impact of these tax hikes, at low income levels, a few hundred dollars. but for people make more than $500,000 a year, an average tax hike of $120,000 unless there is some kind of a fix. and finally, here is one possible solution, i guess. starbucks is telling all of their employees here in the dc area to write on every single coffee they make, come together. that is not just a tall order, but maybe a venty. i think a venty. >> kelly: that's really a good idea. not a good one, doug. >> clayton: thanks. what was your beverage of choice this morning? is that your coffee cup? >> juliet: all r
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